Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:33 am This brings up a question I've had for a while, and since the main issue has been addressed (most moms dont test their weed and pull info from Leafly and the like)...My are people buying off moms if they need their stuff as actual medicine? There are legal, lab tested channels in Canada for that, why pass through black market if you actually need weed to medicate?

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:33 am This brings up a question I've had for a while, and since the main issue has been addressed (most moms dont test their weed and pull info from Leafly and the like)...My are people buying off moms if they need their stuff as actual medicine? There are legal, lab tested channels in Canada for that, why pass through black market if you actually need weed to medicate?

xsinx wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:53 am

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:33 am This brings up a question I've had for a while, and since the main issue has been addressed (most moms dont test their weed and pull info from Leafly and the like)...My are people buying off moms if they need their stuff as actual medicine? There are legal, lab tested channels in Canada for that, why pass through black market if you actually need weed to medicate?

Weed is weed man, there's no such thing as medical and recreational weed. If you think companies growing thousands of plants a month in a huge factory geared for profit are safer/cleaner than craft cannabis from weed passionates you're only fooling yourself.

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:00 pm I know weed is weed...but I'm refering to the use of it. I often see people who need weed for medical purposes buying off moms, which is what motivated my question. If you do really need weed for medicinal purposes, need a lab test etc, why arent these people buying off LPs (legal medical sources) instead of buying off moms?

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:00 pm

xsinx wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:53 am

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:33 am This brings up a question I've had for a while, and since the main issue has been addressed (most moms dont test their weed and pull info from Leafly and the like)...My are people buying off moms if they need their stuff as actual medicine? There are legal, lab tested channels in Canada for that, why pass through black market if you actually need weed to medicate?

Weed is weed man, there's no such thing as medical and recreational weed. If you think companies growing thousands of plants a month in a huge factory geared for profit are safer/cleaner than craft cannabis from weed passionates you're only fooling yourself.

I know weed is weed...but I'm refering to the use of it. I often see people who need weed for medical purposes buying off moms, which is what motivated my question. If you do really need weed for medicinal purposes, need a lab test etc, why arent these people buying off LPs (legal medical sources) instead of buying off moms?

416Strains.ca wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:12 pm

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:00 pm I know weed is weed...but I'm refering to the use of it. I often see people who need weed for medical purposes buying off moms, which is what motivated my question. If you do really need weed for medicinal purposes, need a lab test etc, why arent these people buying off LPs (legal medical sources) instead of buying off moms?

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Can only comment for myself, but prior to our website late last fall, 95% of my consumption was medicinal and I chose to do painstaking research on the r/CanadianMoMs sub for months as I slowly got ready to make my own orders. (My partner sourced for me previously, and used to also spend time researching reliable sources)

Primary consideration was quality vs price, secondary considerations were reliability of availability and selection. Have to say that legal options aren't better despite available lab results on every strain, especially if you are capable of doing your own research to find those good, reliable alternative sources.

(A big motivation for our website was my personal hopes of helping other medicinal users, like myself previously, source reliable, medicinally-effective strains from reputable, trusted alternative sources if they couldn't afford the insane LP subscriptions. Happy to say my health has been steadily improving over the past year, so while I'm still super careful about not increasing my tolerance irresponsibly since I rely on the relief I get, I'd say only 70% of my usage now is medicinal, with the other 30% being 'enjoyment' where I specifically evaluate strains against one another for the purposes of our reviews.)

King Tuts wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:41 pm A MoM like us, work on getting products in that are what we feel to be at a great value. New strains come and go. Let's say we only grabbed a pound or half a pound... not knowing if we would get it again. To add to the cost of the product to get it tested, yeah it could work but we don't. Like a poster mentioned, we do get our info from the top 3 most reliable sites to get the lowest and highest THC/CBD levels and post that for it's details. That's always been my answer to this question. That also being said, a company like Twisted Extracts that we are glad to have on board, do all their lab tests on their edibles, which is shown and available.

Maybe this will change one day but this is how it is in this Industry in most cases, I would assume and guess. Maybe that will change one day, I don't know. SO, for many of our Cannabis Products, please just use our THC/CBD content that's listed as just a high and low that has been tested on that certain strain (not product) by other parties.

When it does come to Marijuana for strictly medicinal uses, I think that the user or patient has to do some of their due diligence, either deal with companies that make sure to have accurate lab tests (hope they are not fudging their numbers, which is also a possibility) and pay the premium price OR roll the dice with MoM's like myself that that will save you some cash AND probably have a better product anyways.

If we can fairly grade our products, A-AAAA and trust us doing so, there is enough research that you can do online to get an idea of what that product contains or have an educated guess anyways.

Patients/Recreational Users have choices.

My 2 cents that would have costed 3 cents if it was lab tested.

Bassdrop30 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:48 pm I can understand the price differences, I can understand that moms offer lower-priced product...But to my understanding when used with a prescription through LPs a large chunk of the cost is tax-deductible...Personally if I used medically instead of recreationally, I would want most of the cost reimbursed, no?

Ganjawest wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:33 pm We're working towards getting all our new cannabis strains lab tested so we can stay as transparent as possible. yes this does raise the cost of our product but its the price ganjawest as a company is willing to pay to make sure the consumers know what there getting.

King Tuts wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:47 pm

Henderjo wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:50 pm All I'm saying to this feed ......is that if moms had the same strain one listed at 220 with a data sheet and one at 190 with no data sheet both rated AAAA I'm going for 190 lol in terms of medical and wanting to know exact levels don't buy herb... buy pills, drinks edibles.....regulated THC at 10,20,50 etc and same goes for CBD even lab tested flower will change plant to plant of the same strain from the same grow lol even from the top bud to the lower, King Tut said it wisely previously let's keep it at two cents and have some trust in our moms that's the whole reason of this community...share report, recommend ...all of it the best part of mom's is having such a choice example ganja west,king Tut.....cheapweed everyone does it a little different giving us the customer our choices and preferences

HighFive wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:01 pm I don't think it is practical for MOMs to do testing. They may have dozens of strains and new ones coming all the time. I think it makes more sense for the growers to do the testing. They are typically producing large crops of a few strains, so the cost would be more manageable. They are most often ACMPR licensed, so labs could accept their samples. It also would give them metrics to dial in their rooms, they could see how they are improving from crop to crop, if they flushed long enough, or had undetected pathogens, etc. Then they could start marketing facts rather than hype, maybe even retire the subjective A grading system.

Ghost Drops wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:49 pm for us at the present time, mostly because the effects of weed depend more on just the thc/cbd content, which is all the basic test covers, it doesnt seem worth it with our stock level and frequent stock changes. (the amount of tests we would have to do and the amount of times we would need to test something)
I've also had some "tested" 14% thc weed knock me on my ass more than "tested" 20% thc weed, so i personally think a basic test is useless. And we're not a place you wanna look for any "medicinal" purposes (looking for CBD strains - stuff like that).

the main reason for the gov testing is for pesticides etc. to prove the weed is safe to consume, so adding in the tests with just thc/cbd content isn't going to do anything to dispel "black-market" or "semi-illegal" from the equation in our opinion.

HighFive wrote: Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:01 pm I don't think it is practical for MOMs to do testing. They may have dozens of strains and new ones coming all the time. I think it makes more sense for the growers to do the testing. They are typically producing large crops of a few strains, so the cost would be more manageable. They are most often ACMPR licensed, so labs could accept their samples. It also would give them metrics to dial in their rooms, they could see how they are improving from crop to crop, if they flushed long enough, or had undetected pathogens, etc. Then they could start marketing facts rather than hype, maybe even retire the subjective A grading system.