power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am My high two cents lol We're living in the marketing era anyways all you see is promotion everywhere you look. All companies have their marketing strategies and paying for advertisement it's quite expensive. Everybody needs to try to save a dollar no matter how rich or poor So if Tony is paying for ads or paying employees for posting on the internet Kudos to him for trying to build up his company growth. Sometimes you have to utilize what you have in front of you and do whatever it takes to make your company grow. Everybody's not going to be happy along the way ( Like the person who made the threat thrashing Tony. (Thread is locked now)
Maybe the haters are actually some other mom shops ganging up together and getting their loyal customers to trash Tony and his company because they see all the attraction he gets. They need to find some way to slow him down. They may feel like cheapweed is digging into your pocket. You know the saying
( More Money More Problems )
I totally think this applies to the situation at hand for Tony, just changed the wording a little bit in the quote
When someone is doing good there's always someone trying to knock you down. I personally see nothing wrong with Tony trying to grow his business and help people out at the same time. I don't even care if Tony has 10 million ads, link code referrals, reviews whatever the case may be to promote his company. Personally other moms should follow and do the exact samething and build their company name up if needed. Regardless people make their own decisions. If your don't like the way Tony does business stay away. I know avertisment sometimes gets annoying and bothers the shit out of people just like commercials on TV there's nothing you can do about it. Well this is my high opinion anyways Tony needs to keep doing what he's doing and let the haters hate
Tony don't let anybody bring you down

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am My high two cents lol We're living in the marketing era anyways all you see is promotion everywhere you look. All companies have their marketing strategies and paying for advertisement it's quite expensive. Everybody needs to try to save a dollar no matter how rich or poor So if Tony is paying for ads or paying employees for posting on the internet Kudos to him for trying to build up his company growth. Sometimes you have to utilize what you have in front of you and do whatever it takes to make your company grow. Everybody's not going to be happy along the way ( Like the person who made the threat thrashing Tony. (Thread is locked now)
Maybe the haters are actually some other mom shops ganging up together and getting their loyal customers to trash Tony and his company because they see all the attraction he gets. They need to find some way to slow him down. They may feel like cheapweed is digging into your pocket. You know the saying
( More Money More Problems )
I totally think this applies to the situation at hand for Tony, just changed the wording a little bit in the quote
When someone is doing good there's always someone trying to knock you down. I personally see nothing wrong with Tony trying to grow his business and help people out at the same time. I don't even care if Tony has 10 million ads, link code referrals, reviews whatever the case may be to promote his company. Personally other moms should follow and do the exact samething and build their company name up if needed. Regardless people make their own decisions. If your don't like the way Tony does business stay away. I know avertisment sometimes gets annoying and bothers the shit out of people just like commercials on TV there's nothing you can do about it. Well this is my high opinion anyways Tony needs to keep doing what he's doing and let the haters hate
Tony don't let anybody bring you down

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am My high two cents lol We're living in the marketing era anyways all you see is promotion everywhere you look. All companies have their marketing strategies and paying for advertisement it's quite expensive. Everybody needs to try to save a dollar no matter how rich or poor So if Tony is paying for ads or paying employees for posting on the internet Kudos to him for trying to build up his company growth. Sometimes you have to utilize what you have in front of you and do whatever it takes to make your company grow. Everybody's not going to be happy along the way ( Like the person who made the threat thrashing Tony. (Thread is locked now)
Maybe the haters are actually some other mom shops ganging up together and getting their loyal customers to trash Tony and his company because they see all the attraction he gets. They need to find some way to slow him down. They may feel like cheapweed is digging into your pocket. You know the saying
( More Money More Problems )
I totally think this applies to the situation at hand for Tony, just changed the wording a little bit in the quote
When someone is doing good there's always someone trying to knock you down. I personally see nothing wrong with Tony trying to grow his business and help people out at the same time. I don't even care if Tony has 10 million ads, link code referrals, reviews whatever the case may be to promote his company. Personally other moms should follow and do the exact samething and build their company name up if needed. Regardless people make their own decisions. If your don't like the way Tony does business stay away. I know avertisment sometimes gets annoying and bothers the shit out of people just like commercials on TV there's nothing you can do about it. Well this is my high opinion anyways Tony needs to keep doing what he's doing and let the haters hate
Tony don't let anybody bring you down

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am if Tony is paying for ads

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:57 pm You are a fucking goof jamielamister. You need to get your information correct before you start your accusations.
Just to be clear if I'm working for Tony, Then Tony at cheapweed owes me some fucking money for the whopping 6 pictures I posted and reviewed. Along with all the other mom shops that I've ordered from you're in debt with me.
( JOKING OBVIOUSLY NOT)

Haters are going to hate and obviously you're hating.

Just so the community knows: Every single time I post a picture/review from any mom shop I order from guessing I'm a shill worker
I'll take it with a grain of salt and move on.
I better get to work shilling the community

(Don't read the above and take it out of content)
The whole point is I'm not a shill working for anyone mom shop. I'm just a customer that likes posting what I enjoy.
They're always going to be a little favoritism everybody knows how the game works.
Stay blessed and keep high

bblzd wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:30 pm

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am if Tony is paying for ads

Why would someone pay for an ad that has a user's referal link which he then has to pay out money to? If the owner of the business paid for the ad they would not include any extras in the URL.

Affiliate systems are designed to get others to spread the word with their personal URL and some folks will go to great lengths to do so.

It's more than just a stretch to go from that to "every person who likes Cheapweed is a shill account". Many members here including mods have posted positively about Cheapweed and it would be quite the paranoid delusion to assume the community is on some giant conspiracy.

Clearly this is someone with a personal vendetta against Cheapweed and is trying to tarnish their reputation. Maybe it's the same "ilikeflower" redditor who was shown via screenshots to be sending death threats when Tony wouldn't give in to their demands for a better deal.

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:41 pm

bblzd wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:30 pm

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:18 am if Tony is paying for ads

Why would someone pay for an ad that has a user's referal link which he then has to pay out money to? If the owner of the business paid for the ad they would not include any extras in the URL.

Affiliate systems are designed to get others to spread the word with their personal URL and some folks will go to great lengths to do so.

It's more than just a stretch to go from that to "every person who likes Cheapweed is a shill account". Many members here including mods have posted positively about Cheapweed and it would be quite the paranoid delusion to assume the community is on some giant conspiracy.

Clearly this is someone with a personal vendetta against Cheapweed and is trying to tarnish their reputation. Maybe it's the same "ilikeflower" redditor who was shown via screenshots to be sending death threats when Tony wouldn't give in to their demands for a better deal.

LOL first he's just playing it safe because he wouldn't use his real account for the reddit venture, the first ad he put up was directed towards his shop no extra URL. And secondly he doesnt have to pay out money if hes paying himself. Makes sense right

Im not sayin every person here, but most of them are shills and started out as such, so its very clever ill give him that. and i dont have any personal vendetta, never even heard of ilikeflower. i'm just wondering why we are treatin other people differently for the same situations. no lie Tony has a good rep, but the sht he does behind the scenes is shady and i'm callin out when i see it. thats it

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:43 pm

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:41 pm

bblzd wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:30 pm

Why would someone pay for an ad that has a user's referal link which he then has to pay out money to? If the owner of the business paid for the ad they would not include any extras in the URL.

Affiliate systems are designed to get others to spread the word with their personal URL and some folks will go to great lengths to do so.

It's more than just a stretch to go from that to "every person who likes Cheapweed is a shill account". Many members here including mods have posted positively about Cheapweed and it would be quite the paranoid delusion to assume the community is on some giant conspiracy.

Clearly this is someone with a personal vendetta against Cheapweed and is trying to tarnish their reputation. Maybe it's the same "ilikeflower" redditor who was shown via screenshots to be sending death threats when Tony wouldn't give in to their demands for a better deal.

LOL first he's just playing it safe because he wouldn't use his real account for the reddit venture, the first ad he put up was directed towards his shop no extra URL. And secondly he doesnt have to pay out money if hes paying himself. Makes sense right

Im not sayin every person here, but most of them are shills and started out as such, so its very clever ill give him that. and i dont have any personal vendetta, never even heard of ilikeflower. i'm just wondering why we are treatin other people differently for the same situations. no lie Tony has a good rep, but the sht he does behind the scenes is shady and i'm callin out when i see it. thats it

buddy i did extensive research into his activities and they are all operations of the management FOR SURE. LOL u think someone will pay google ads 1-2 a click for top keywords for $10 referrals LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. its obviously for the fuckin shop and the money you make from actual sales instead of fkn referral money. how does this not make sense

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:48 pm Jamielamister other people called me out for shilling on discord LONG ago. Nice to no and if thats the facted they're just like you, a hater of random mom shop that I posted about. Clearly look at my post history. All different mom shops buddy

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:49 pm

power_of_woman wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:48 pm Jamielamister other people called me out for shilling on discord LONG ago. Nice to no and if thats the facted they're just like you, a hater of random mom shop that I posted about. Clearly look at my post history. All different mom shops buddy

ok fine you may not be a shill but thats not my point here. Tony is obviously paying for the ad because the ad costs more than referrals. Therefore Tony has bots to make fake reviews.

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:49 pm ok fine you may not be a shill but thats not my point here. Tony is obviously paying for the ad because the ad costs more than referrals. Therefore Tony has bots to make fake reviews.

Complicacy wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:18 pm First of all I want to say I don't necessarily agree with this thread, kind of just throwing fuel into the fire.

jamielamister wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:49 pm ok fine you may not be a shill but thats not my point here. Tony is obviously paying for the ad because the ad costs more than referrals. Therefore Tony has bots to make fake reviews.

Jamiel, you state the cost of host this ad is between $1-2 per click which is FALSE. Upon a quick look up of your statement I've found that is the average CPC (Cost Per Click) for Google Adwords BUT it can however be less. The article on it I'm reading states CPC is set by Keywords, Bids (auctions) & Quality Score, Keywords such as Insurance/Loans/Mortgage are between $44-55 CPC, this is likely due to the amount of bids that include those keywords, which the topic we are talking about shouldn't have any issues as it's an illegal market & reddit generally does not deal with money to have a reason to advertise. Quality Score may have an effect on the CPC such as increasing it due to the unfriendly nature of it, however I don't know what factors into this but having a better score causes less of a CPC.

The article gives an example with a CPC of 25 cents, creating a possible x4-x8 difference of the example you've given. The only person can confirm how much the Ad costs will likely be the one hosting it, and therefore we are just playing another guessing game. (Looking at google ad words official page, you're able to set what your CPC is)

But lets do your example to get an idea of how plausible it is for another user to be paying for the Ad.
$1 CPC, $20/day advertising limit, 20 people click giving the refer 20 chances at say 2% (think it may actually be 5 for CW), the average sale of CW will likely be $300 due to the 35% mix & match, 2% of $300 = $6 per sale, this would mean roughly a quarter of people clicking would have to purchase for them to break even or profit, don't forgot about returning customers if the referral still stands after first purchase than everything on top is gravy. (Return Customers likely spend more)

Now if it is 5% only 1-2 of the 20 would need to have purchased, another example is if it's 25 cents CPC that's $5/day & requiring only 1 of the 20 to purchase. If both are true they would need 1/60 to keep this up, this sounds more than realistic for someone to do besides Tony.

Hopefully this clears up some of the vagueness around the claims.
Source: https://www.wordstream.com/blog/ws/2015 ... words-cost
Source: https://adwords.google.com/home/pricing/

As for the Bot remarks... If Tony has a bot that realistic for posting Reviews he's surely in the wrong business. These reviews are posting pictures of strains in different environments that look similar to other users pictures of the strain from that MoM, they are giving detailed information & responses that make sense & search out other threads not related to CW and comment something that is related to the thread, defend themselves & others...etc. If you're talking just up-voting & creating threads with that copy paste response CanadianTrees is doing than sure it's possible but again no proof that it's Tony's doing.

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jamielamister wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:12 pm

Chopper wrote: Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:10 pm Oh hey dude! Can you keep a secret? Not me! That's why I'm letting you know where to get bomb ass weed for real cheap. I know, sounds too good to be true, but it really is lol! Just go to cheapweed.ca and sign up for an account it's super easy. And just because I think you're such a cool dude, I'll let you in on a secret lol. Ask for Tony, he's the owner and he's super cool and his customer service is awesome lol! Remember, that's cheapweed.ca, it's the best lol.

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